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Comforting Others: When to Speak and When to Listen

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An analysis of when we should and shouldn't comfort someone who is angry, grieving, or making vows, exploring the tension between practical psychology and spiritual sensitivity to legitimate human emotions.

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This shiur examines the Mishnah (משנה) in Pirkei Avos (4:18) that teaches three situations where we should not attempt to comfort someone: when they are angry (shas kaso), when they have just lost a relative (before burial), and when they are making a vow (shas nidro). The Gemara (גמרא) in Brachos learns these laws from pesukim, particularly from Moshe Rabbeinu's interaction with Hashem (ה׳) after the sin of the Golden Calf. The shiur presents two major approaches to understanding this halachah. Rabbeinu Yonah explains that attempting to comfort someone in these situations will only make them angrier - a practical psychological observation that seemingly wouldn't require a pasuk to teach. The Rambam (רמב"ם) in Hilchos De'os, however, presents a different understanding: comforting doesn't make the person angrier, but simply doesn't help. This leads to several difficulties: Why would we need pesukim to teach obvious psychological facts? Why do Rabbeinu Yonah and the Rambam seem to disagree on the basic facts? Why does the Rambam change the order of the Mishnah, placing the law about vows second instead of third? The resolution offered distinguishes between two types of situations. Rabbeinu Yonah addresses cases where the emotions are illegitimate - inappropriate anger, improper vows, or unhealthy responses to loss. In such cases, attempting comfort will indeed increase the person's agitation. The Rambam, writing in Hilchos De'os about the ideal conduct of a talmid chacham, addresses situations where the emotions are legitimate and healthy. The Rambam's approach represents a profound insight into human psychology and spiritual sensitivity. Sometimes people need to experience their feelings fully - legitimate anger, the natural process of making important commitments, or the healthy grieving process. The halachah teaches that true friendship and spiritual sensitivity (oyev shalom v'rodef shalom) means giving people space to feel what they need to feel, validating their legitimate emotions rather than rushing to 'fix' them. This explains why pesukim are needed: it's not obvious that we should refrain from comforting someone whose feelings are legitimate. Our instinct is to help, but sometimes the greatest help is allowing someone to experience necessary emotions. The Gemara learns this from Hashem's response to Moshe - even God's anger (kel zo'em b'chol yom) represents a legitimate feeling that shouldn't be interrupted. The Rambam's reordering of the Mishnah reflects this deeper understanding. When dealing with legitimate emotions, the progression moves from anger to vows (both forms of legitimate intensity) to bereavement, with the last being the greatest chiddush - that even the confusion and upheaval (bohol) of loss is a legitimate state that requires validation.

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Topics

anger managementcomforting mournersemotional validationPirkei Avoslegitimate feelingstalmid chacham conductMoshe RabbeinuGolden Calfoyev shalomspiritual sensitivity

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Pirkei Avos 4:18

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