Ben Sorer U'Moreh: Punishment for Intent vs Action

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This shiur provides a comprehensive analysis of the sugya of Ben Sorer U'Moreh found on daf 72b of Masechta Sanhedrin. Rabbi Zweig begins by examining the famous statement that "Ben Sorer U'Moreh lo haya v'lo asid lihyos" - the rebellious son never was and never will be. He questions why Rabbi Yonasan's response "I saw him and sat on his grave" was only directed at one of the two explanations given for why this case never occurs. The shiur addresses the fundamental question raised by the Mizrachi: how can the Torah (תורה) mandate killing someone "l'shem sofo" (for his ultimate end) when we have a principle from Rosh Hashanah that "ein adam nidon ela l'fi sha'ato" (a person is only judged according to his present state)? This apparent contradiction is highlighted by the case of Yishmael, who despite being destined for wickedness, was actually saved by Divine intervention. Rabbi Zweig presents an innovative understanding that revolutionizes the entire approach to this sugya. He argues that the Ben Sorer U'Moreh is not an innocent child being killed to prevent future sins, but rather someone who has already mentally committed to a life of crime. The key insight is that while he hasn't performed the actual deeds (ma'aseh), he has already made the internal decision (machshavah) to pursue his desires regardless of the consequences, including being willing to kill if necessary. This explains why the punishment is sekilah (stoning) - the same punishment for one who kills on Shabbos (שבת). The Torah is indicating that in his mind, he has already decided that nothing, not even Shabbos, will stop him from satisfying his addictive behaviors. The concept of rodef (pursuer) is brought into the analysis, showing how all these laws share the common thread of punishing someone who has already committed in their mind to perform certain actions. The shiur draws a crucial distinction between Yishmael and the Ben Sorer U'Moreh. Notably, the Torah never uses Yishmael's actual name when describing his negative actions, referring to him only as "yeled," "na'ar," or "ben ha'amah." This teaches that Yishmael's problems were circumstantial - related to his immaturity and circumstances of birth - rather than reflective of his essential character. Therefore, his name remains pure and can be given to righteous people. Rabbi Zweig explains Rabbi Yonasan's statement about sitting on the grave by suggesting that as a kohen, Rabbi Yonasan was making the point that the Ben Sorer U'Moreh retained his status as a tzaddik despite being executed. The grave of a tzaddik doesn't cause tumah to a kohen, so by sitting on the grave, Rabbi Yonasan was demonstrating that the executed boy was fundamentally innocent despite his mental state. The shiur concludes with an analysis of the four instances where the Torah states "v'chol Yisrael yishmu v'yira'u" (all Israel shall hear and fear), noting the unique formulation used for Ben Sorer U'Moreh that omits the usual continuation of "v'lo yosifu" (and not do again), suggesting a different purpose for the publicization of this particular case.