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How can couples truly learn from each other rather than just negotiate? Using Avos 5:9's rules for proper learning, the shiur shows that healthy marriage requires genuine listening and growing together. These principles transform spousal communication from mere peacekeeping to mutual development.
This shiur examines Pirkei Avos 5:9 (Perek Hei, Mishna Tes), which outlines the proper conduct for learning from others, and applies these principles specifically to marriage and spousal relationships. The Mishna establishes several key rules for proper learning: allowing the speaker to finish completely before responding, staying focused on the topic being discussed, answering questions in their proper order of priority, and being willing to admit mistakes. Rabbi Zweig explains that according to Rashi (רש"י), this Mishna is not merely about general etiquette (Derech Eretz) but specifically about the laws of Torah (תורה) scholarship - how we must learn from each other. The ability to learn from others is described as the "sine qua non" for Torah scholarship. The Torah was given not just as information dissemination, but specifically so that we learn from the perspective of our teachers, making the teacher's perspective itself part of Torah.
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