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Why should a thief who has someone else shecht a stolen animal on Shabbos (שבת) pay the four- or five-fold penalty when normally Shabbos violation would exempt him? The shiur examines the Gemara (גמרא)'s distinction between agency (shlichus) and causation (grama), showing that even when true agency doesn't apply due to ein shaliach l'dvar aveira, the thief may still be liable through indirect causation for the shechita itself—just not for the Shabbos violation.
This shiur analyzes a complex Gemara (גמרא) in Bava Kamma 61a dealing with the intersection of monetary liability and Shabbos (שבת) violation in cases of theft. The central question is: if someone steals an animal and has it slaughtered on Shabbos through an agent (shaliach), should they be liable for the enhanced four- or five-fold penalty (arba'a vachamisha), or should the Shabbos violation exempt them from payment? The Gemara initially questions why Rabbi Meir holds that one who slaughters on Yom Kippur must still pay. Since Yom Kippur violation carries malkos (lashes), and Rabbi Meir generally holds "lokeh umeshalem" (one receives both lashes and pays), the question arises whether the same principle should apply to Shabbos violations which carry the death penalty (misah). The shiur develops an important conceptual distinction: when the punishment is death (misah), it may already encompass all lesser punishments, whereas malkos is considered a separate, discrete punishment that doesn't automatically include monetary liability.
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Bava Kamma 61a
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