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When a fire spreads via an animal (camel bringing in coals, or owner leaving fire outside), who pays for damage—the animal owner or the fire owner? The Gemara (גמרא), Rambam (רמב"ם), Raavad, and Tur present contradictory positions on whether both are liable, whether one pays full or half damages, and whether "mesach sechas" (complete encirclement) changes the liability structure. Multiple unresolved tensions emerge across these sources.
This shiur presents a detailed analysis of Bava Kamma 22a, focusing on the complex liability issues when fire damage occurs through the medium of an animal. Rabbi Zweig systematically identifies numerous contradictions between the Gemara (גמרא)'s discussion, Rashi (רש"י), Tosfos, the Rambam (רמב"ם), the Raavad, and the Tur, leaving many questions unresolved for further study. The core case involves two scenarios: (1) a camel enters someone's house, takes coals (gachalos), and sets fire to property (the gadol or a pile of grain/beer), and (2) the owner of the house leaves a candle outside (ner bachutz) where the camel takes it and causes damage. The Gemara explores whether the animal owner (baal hagamal) or the fire owner (chen veni) is liable, and to what extent.
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Bava Kamma 22a
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