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What does dover lo chatzi dover mean in the context of testimony that requires multiple pairs of witnesses? The Ramban (רמב"ן) holds it's a revolutionary concept requiring witnesses to testify about a halachic status (ma'aseh niuf, ma'aseh gezeila), not just facts. The Baal HaMaor maintains it's a practical issue: witnesses must see everything visible, making it about complete re'iyat edut rather than halachic conceptualization.
This advanced shiur analyzes the fundamental machloket between the Ramban (רמב"ן) and Baal HaMaor regarding the principle of dover lo chatzi dover (literally "a matter and not half a matter") as it applies to witnesses in cases requiring multiple pairs of testimony. The Gemara (גמרא) in Bava Kamma 70b discusses cases where one pair of witnesses testifies to theft (geneiva) and another to slaughter or sale (tvicha u'mechira), raising the question of whether such split testimony constitutes valid edut. The Baal HaMaor criticizes the Rif's approach that distinguishes based on whether testimony is "nogeya" (relevant to monetary obligation). He argues that according to the Gemara's havamina (initial assumption), testimony about tvicha should be problematic even for the Chachamim who generally reject dover lo chatzi dover, because testimony about tvicha alone carries no halachic significance—it's not edut at all unless combined with knowledge of the theft.
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Bava Kamma 70b
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