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When a man gives a woman a dinar toward a larger sum, is she mekudeshes immediately or only when he completes payment? The Gemara (גמרא) distinguishes between "mona stam" (unspecified money) and "mona zu" (this specific money), and between cases where he's "mona v'holech" (counting out money). The shiur explores Rav Ashi's position that intent is determined by the method of giving, raising profound questions about how we assess a person's daas and why we'd assume someone would enter an arrangement contrary to their interests.
This shiur analyzes a complex sugya in Kiddushin 8a dealing with the dynamics of kiddushin when a man gives a woman money in installments or promises to give more than what he initially gives. The core question is: when does the kiddushin take effect—immediately upon giving the first dinar, or only when the full amount is given? The Gemara (גמרא) presents a case where a man says "harei at mekudeshes li b'mona" (you are betrothed to me with money) and gives her a dinar, but promises to give more later (mona v'holech). According to Rav, she is mekudeshes immediately with the dinar, and the rest is treated as a tanai (condition). The question arises: how do we know he means to be mekadesh her miyad (immediately) rather than waiting until he completes the full payment?
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Kiddushin 8a
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