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What constitutes valid payment in a kinyan (acquisition)? The Gemara (גמרא) on Bava Kamma 10a analyzes whether a ganav who gives stolen goods in exchange for tanim (figs) creates a valid mechirah. Tosafos (תוספות) and the RI offer two approaches: Rabbeinu Tam holds that the issue is whether the payment creates a reciprocal chiyuv, while the RI argues the question is whether the buyer actually gave the seller anything of value.
This shiur provides an in-depth analysis of Bava Kamma 10a, focusing on the Gemara (גמרא)'s discussion of when a transaction between a ganav (thief) and a purchaser constitutes a valid mechirah (sale) that would obligate the ganav in payment of daled v'hei (fourfold or fivefold payment). The case involves a ganav who steals a cow and gives it to someone (Nissen) in exchange for permission to pick figs from Nissen's tree. The braisa rules patur (exempt from daled v'hei), and the Gemara seeks to understand the rationale. The central question revolves around whether this transaction qualifies as a mechirah. Rami Bar Chama initially suggests the case involves the buyer offering tanim (figs), but the Gemara objects: if the buyer offers tanim, this doesn't create a proper mehir (purchase price) because the ganav would not be legally obligated to return the tanim if claimed by the original owner, due to kam lei b'derabbah minei (the principle that one who is liable for a capital offense is exempt from monetary obligations, as picking figs on Shabbos (שבת) carries capital liability).
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Bava Kamma 10a
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