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Does yiush work through kinyan geneiva (like shinui), or is it independent like aveida? The Gemara (גמרא) in Bava Kamma 56b presents Rava arguing yiush operates via kinyan geneiva (which the issur delays), while Rav Yosef holds kinyan geneiva prevents yiush from working since one cannot be me'ayeish on an obligation. The Rosh's position—that midrabanan you can hold the object but lack full kinyan—depends on whether we follow Rava's mechanism or Rav Yosef's reasoning.
This shiur analyzes the fundamental machlokes between Rava and Rav Yosef regarding how yiush (despair) functions in the laws of gezeila (theft). The Gemara (גמרא) in Bava Kamma 56b presents the question of whether yiush allows the thief to acquire the stolen object, and if so, whether this works on a Torah (תורה) level (midoraisa) or rabbinically (midrabanan). The shiur opens by establishing that shinui (physical change) clearly works to transfer ownership because once the object is no longer the same, the chiyuv hashava (obligation to return) no longer applies, allowing the kinyan geneiva (the thief's inherent acquisition) to take effect. The question is whether yiush operates through the same mechanism—removing the chiyuv hashava and activating the underlying kinyan geneiva—or through an entirely different mechanism, similar to how yiush works by aveida (lost objects).
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Bava Kamma 56b
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