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When does returning a lost object create issur hanah? The shiur contrasts the Ran's view that hanah in nedarim requires present value (not just potential) while shomer sachar requires only potential, with Tosafos (תוספות) who says taking the object removes it from ma'avir chari entirely. The debate hinges on whether schar batalah is payment for the service or just for idle time.
This shiur analyzes the Gemara (גמרא)'s discussion in Nedarim 33b regarding the machlokes between Rabbis on whether a person may return a lost object (aveidah) when there is an issur hanah (prohibition of benefit) between him and the owner. The central issue revolves around prutas Rav Yosef—whether saving someone from having to pay an ani (poor person) who finds the object creates sufficient hanah to violate the neder. The Ran's fundamental position is that in hilchos nedarim (laws of vows), there must be actual present hanah of a perutah's value, not merely potential hanah. By contrast, for the din of shomer sachar (paid guardian), potential hanah is sufficient. According to the Ran, when one picks up an aveidah, he becomes a shomer sachar because there is potential to receive a perutah, even though lo shachi (it is not common) for someone to actually pay for that service. However, for the issur hanah in nedarim, since no one would presently pay a perutah for the right to return the aveidah, there is no present hanah, and therefore it is permitted.
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Nedarim 33b
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