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Can two brothers give one pruta together to marry two sisters? The shiur distinguishes between maase kiddushin (sanctification ceremony) and kinyan kesef (monetary transaction). Unlike kinyanim which cannot be combined, maase kiddushin can be shared—explaining why bus'ar mekabel works and why the Rambam (רמב"ם) doesn't require ketana status.
This shiur analyzes Kidushin 7b, focusing on the case where two brothers use one pruta to marry two sisters through a shaliach. Rabbi Zweig presents a fundamental disagreement between Rashi (רש"י) and Tosafos (תוספות) about whether this case involves ketanos (minors) or gedolos (adults), and what makes the kiddushin work. According to Tosafos, the girls must be ketanos because the father is not a shaliach but rather the principal (the father owns his ketana daughter's kiddushin). Tosafos argues that bus'ar noisen (following the giver) is lav davka—only bus'ar mekabel matters. Where the father acts as shaliach for the boys, you would definitely need two prutas since there are two separate maase kiddushin happening.
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Kiddushin 7b
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