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When a man betroths with "manah zu" while counting out money sequentially, is the first coin the kiddushin with the rest as conditions, or is the entire hundred-coin transfer one large ma'aseh kiddushin? The shiur contrasts Rashi (רש"י)'s tenai framework (where incompletion allows withdrawal) with the Ran's unified ma'aseh approach (where deficiency invalidates), then applies Tosafos (תוספות)'s understanding to the Rambam (רמב"ם) and Shulchan Aruch—showing how the time-limited nature of "manah zu b'holech" determines whether silence or explicit agreement is required when the final payment is deferred.
This shiur is the second part of Rabbi Zweig's analysis of Kiddushin 8a, continuing the exploration of the principle governing betrothal when money is given sequentially (manah zu–manah stam). The foundational yesod is established: when a ma'aseh kiddushin is performed in a sequence—saying "manah" and giving money in multiple givings—the default structure is that the first giving is the kiddushin, and the subsequent givings are tenai (conditions). The lecture examines two central cases: manah stam (unspecified giving) and manah zu (specified amount given sequentially), probing how Rishonim define the nature of the kiddushin and the tenai in each case. Rabbi Zweig presents Rashi (רש"י)'s approach: in both manah stam and manah zu moneh v'holech (counting progressively), the first dinar is the kiddushin and the rest are tenai. When the man says manah zu and counts, Rashi holds the kiddushin occurs with the first coin, but the tenai is not chal (takes effect) until completion—it is a tenai l'achar zman (condition for a later time), not me'achshav. This means the kiddushin is not fully binding until the hundred coins are given. According to Rashi, yachol lachzor—either party can retract—until the tenai is fulfilled. However, there is no specified deadline; the tenai remains open-ended.
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Kiddushin 8a
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