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Why does the Gemara (גמרא) ask for a "remez" for adam zomanim when the pasuk clearly states "va'asitem lo ka'asher zamam"? The shiur analyzes the dual process in eidim zomemim: conviction through hazamah and punishment through "asitem lo." Every eid zomem receives a din rasha, creating the framework for understanding when they receive malkus versus monetary payments.
This shiur provides a comprehensive analysis of the Gemara (גמרא) in Makkos 5b dealing with eidim zomemim (conspiring witnesses) and the seemingly puzzling question about finding a "remez" (hint) for adam zomanim in the Torah (תורה). The discussion begins with the Gemara's inquiry about where we derive the concept of eidim zomemim, despite the explicit pasuk "va'asitem lo ka'asher zamam." The shiur explains that there are two distinct processes in the halakhos of eidim zomemim. First is the process of hazamah - the conviction of the witnesses as perjurers, which requires specific procedures including "ein adam naasim zomemim achei yigmar hadin" and "ein adam naasim zomemim achei mushneim." The second process is "asitem lo ka'asher zamam" - the actual punishment phase. The Gemara's question about finding a remez relates to establishing why we need the formal hazamah process for conviction, not just any method of determining perjury.
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Makkos 5b
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