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When pebbles (tzroros) kicked by an animal break vessels—first in the public domain, then in a private courtyard—is the liability keren (tooth/horn) or regel (foot)? The Gemara (גמרא) debates whether shinui (deviation) in regel creates a new liability category, or whether tzroros remains purely regel. Rashi (רש"י)'s reading challenges the entire framework: he holds the shaila is not keren vs. regel, but whether shinui within regel itself triggers chatzi nezek (half damages) or remains nezek shalem (full damages).
This shiur presents an intensive analysis of Bava Kamma 19a, focusing on the Gemara (גמרא)'s discussion of an animal that kicks pebbles (tzroros) causing sequential damage—first breaking a vessel in reshus harabim (public domain), then a second vessel in a courtyard. The central question is how to classify this liability: as keren (atypical damage), regel (walking damage), or a hybrid category involving shinui (deviation from normal behavior). Rabbi Zweig begins by analyzing Rashi (רש"י)'s approach to the Gemara's shaila (question). Rashi understands the debate as whether tzroros constitutes a shinui within the category of regel, which would reduce liability from nezek shalem (full damages) to chatzi nezek (half damages). However, the shiur demonstrates that the Gemara can be read in exactly the opposite way: perhaps tzroros is fundamentally keren, and the question is whether shinui within keren creates a special reduced liability. This interpretive flexibility runs through the entire sugya.
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Bava Kamma 19a
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