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Can picking up a floating nut constitute proper akirah if it was never 'placed' on the ground to begin with? Rashi (רש"י) holds that floating objects lack proper hanachah, so removing them cannot create liability. The Rambam (רמב"ם) distinguishes between regular carrying (requiring ground contact) and throwing cases (where flight itself validates the akirah).
This shiur provides an in-depth analysis of Gemara (גמרא) Shabbos (שבת) 5b, focusing on the complex halachos of hotza'ah (carrying) on Shabbos when dealing with objects that are not directly resting on the ground. The central case discussed is an egoz (nut) in a vessel floating on water - whether removing it constitutes a proper akirah (picking up) and hanachah (placing down) required for liability on Shabbos. The Gemara presents the principle that 'mayim agav mayim hanei nachsi' (water carried along with water is considered placed), but 'egoz agav mayim lo hanei nachsi' (a nut floating on water is not considered properly placed). This leads to a fundamental question: if the nut was never properly 'placed' to begin with, can there be a valid akirah when one picks it up?
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Shabbos 5b
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