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Can one fulfill the mitzvah (מצוה) of lulav on Yom Tov Rishon with a stolen lulav if thieves cut it themselves or sell it to someone else? The shiur analyzes Rashi (רש"י)'s two possible explanations—either yiush alone doesn't transfer ownership (requiring shinui reshus) or yiush does work but creates a mitzvah haba'ah b'aveirah problem—and explores the Gemara (גמרא)'s statement that the lulav is "yiush in the hands of the thieves and shinui reshus in the hands of the buyer."
This shiur on Sukkah 30a-b focuses on a Gemara (גמרא) discussing whether thieves who cut hadasim (myrtle branches) for a lulav can fulfill the mitzvah (מצוה), and whether someone who purchases from them can be yotzei. The Gemara addresses the Torah (תורה)'s requirement of "lachem"—that the lulav must belong to the person performing the mitzvah on Yom Tov Rishon. Rashi (רש"י) presents two possible explanations (tav shita) for why cutting the branches creates a problem. The first explanation is that yiush (the owner's despair of recovering stolen property) alone does not effect acquisition; one needs both yiush and shinui reshus (change of domain) for the thief to become the owner. Therefore, if the thieves cut the branches themselves, there is yiush but no shinui reshus, and they won't be yotzei the mitzvah because the lulav doesn't belong to them. The second explanation is that yiush kedei kanya—yiush by itself does transfer ownership—but this creates a problem of mitzvah haba'ah b'aveirah (a mitzvah that comes through a sin), which disqualifies the lulav.
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Sukkah 30a-b
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