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When can a woman's claim of being forced (ones) versus willing (ratzon) be believed in cases affecting her marital status? The shiur analyzes whether the bari v'shema principle applies when she asserts ones, examining disagreements between Rabbeinu Yonah and the Rosh, and why the Rambam (רמב"ם) seems to reject her testimony entirely regardless of her claim.
This shiur provides an intensive analysis of Kesubos 9a, focusing on a complex disagreement among Rishonim regarding when a married woman's testimony about being forced (ones) versus being a willing participant (ratzon) in adultery can be believed. The primary case involves a situation where a husband claims 'pesach (פסח) pasuach motzasi' - that he found his wife to be a non-virgin - creating questions about her status and permissibility to remain married to him. The Gemara (גמרא) establishes that in cases involving an eishes kohen (priest's wife), even one safek (doubt) renders her forbidden, while for an eishes Yisrael (Israelite's wife), only a double safek (sfeik sfeika) creates a prohibition. The core dispute emerges around whether the principle of bari v'shema bari adif (a certain claim is better than an uncertain one) applies when the wife explains her situation.
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Kesubos 9a
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