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Erev Pesach vs Erev Sukkos: When to Stop Eating

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Festival: Pesach (פסח), Sukkos (סוכות)
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Short Summary

Rabbi Zweig analyzes the debate between the Rama and Mechaber regarding the time one must stop eating on Erev Pesach (פסח) versus Erev Sukkos (סוכות), exploring the underlying halachic principles and attempting to resolve apparent contradictions in their rulings.

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Rabbi Zweig examines a fundamental question about when one must stop eating on the eves of major festivals. The Mechaber rules that on both Erev Pesach (פסח) and Erev Sukkos (סוכות), one must stop eating from chatzos (midday). However, the Rama disagrees regarding Erev Pesach, ruling that one only needs to stop from teisha shaos (the ninth hour/3 PM). This creates an apparent contradiction: if the Rama holds that Erev Pesach requires stopping only from teisha shaos, why does he agree with the Mechaber that on Erev Sukkos one must stop from chatzos? The Magen Avraham raises this kashya and suggests that perhaps the difference lies in the type of food permitted: on Erev Pesach, only lighter foods are permitted, which require stopping only from teisha shaos to maintain appetite, while on Erev Sukkos, heavier foods like bread are permitted, requiring the earlier cutoff of chatzos. However, the Magen Avraham himself questions this distinction, noting the lack of clear sources for such a differentiation. The Chayei Yaakov offers an alternative approach, suggesting that the Rama's position is consistent - he actually holds chatzos for both festivals. The reason he doesn't mention chatzos for Erev Pesach is that there's no practical difference (ein nafka mina) since the only food one could theoretically eat is matzah ashira (rich matzah), which the Rama prohibits entirely on Erev Pesach anyway. Rabbi Zweig challenges this approach on several grounds. First, the Rama does permit certain individuals (elderly and sick) to eat matzah ashira, making the halacha (הלכה) practically relevant. Second, there are other foods like mezonos made from matzah meal that might be permitted, again creating practical applications for the timing. The analysis then delves into the underlying Gemara (גמרא) in Pesachim, examining whether the prohibition stems from the korban Pesach or from the matzah obligation itself. Rabbi Zweig presents two innovative ways of reading the Gemara's flow, suggesting that the classical understanding may need refinement. He explores whether the Ran's statement about "taking the stringent position" (nakdin l'chumra) refers to the timing aspect or to maintaining the prohibition even in our era when there is no Temple service. Finally, Rabbi Zweig proposes that the Rambam (רמב"ם)'s understanding of when matzah should be eaten (at the beginning versus end of the meal) might provide insight into resolving these contradictions. The obligation to eat "l'tei'avon" (with appetite) applies differently depending on whether the mitzva is fulfilled at the meal's beginning or conclusion, potentially explaining why different timing restrictions would apply to different festivals.

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Topics

Erev PesachErev Sukkoschatzosteisha shaosl'tei'avonmatzah ashirakorban PesachRamaMechaberMagen Avrahameating restrictions

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