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Why does a miggo work for one case but not another when witnesses saw different levels of impropriety? The shiur develops Tosfos's position that ma'alos habiyuchsin requires eidim only when there's a genuine safek, but when testimony creates certainty (like sfeik sfeika or valid miggo), the requirement is bypassed.
This shiur provides an intricate analysis of Gemara (גמרא) Kesubos 13a, focusing on the dispute between Rav Gamaliel and Rabbi Yehoshua regarding when a woman is believed about her status after witnesses observe suspicious behavior. The central tension explored is why a miggo (logical argument of 'she could have said something better') works in some cases but not others when ma'alos habiyuchsin (strictness regarding lineage) applies. Rabbi Zweig carefully examines Tosfos's approach versus Rashi (רש"י)'s interpretation. According to Tosfos, if the Mishna mentioned only one case, we would understand everything from Rav Gamaliel's perspective, with the second case teaching us Rabbi Yehoshua's position. However, a fundamental question emerges: how do we know that 'meuberes' (pregnant) refers to having a child rather than just being a euphemism for relations?
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Kesubos 13a
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